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Canada vs Argentina Jaguars

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  2. Drew4
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    My 15

    1. Kevin Tkachuk if healthy, I guess Pletch if not?
    2. Pat Riordan
    3. Andrew Tiedemann
    4. Tyler Hotson
    5. Mike Burak
    6. Nanyak Dala
    7. Adam Kleeberger
    8. Aaron Carpenter
    9. Ed Fairhurst
    10. Ander Monro
    11. Sean Duke
    12. DTH
    13. Bryn Keys
    14. James Pritchard
    15. Matt Evans

    any other ideas?

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  4. Harry Craig
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    Which Pletch?

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  6. seven
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    With the twins both playing in the front row this week, look for a LONG afternoon of being pushed all over the f**king place.

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  8. Drew4
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    will be good to see Mckeen again. My 15 wasnt that far off.

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  10. Harry Craig
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    I agree it`s great to see McKeen back, the front row could have a hard time though. Go Canada Go.

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  12. Drew4
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    I think we`ll see Riordan coming in sooner than later

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  14. Faust
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    CANADA SELECTS FOR PLATE FINAL AGAINST ARGENTINA
    Friday, June 19, 2009 - Submitted by Doug Crosse in Denver, Colorado Bookmark and Share
    Regardless of the result this Sunday between Canada and the Argentina Jaguars – Canada will have its highest ever finish in the seven year old Churchill Cup – but the goal is most certainly a win – which will mark Canada as third place finishers in the six team event.

    Canada will play the South Americans on Father’s Day part of a tripe header day of action at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, in Commerce City, Colorado, just outside of Denver. England Saxons play Ireland ‘A’ in a repeat of the 2008 Cup final, while the USA and Georgia will be the only full test match on offer on the day – as the pair play-off for fifth and sixth spot.

    Playing their fifth game in six weeks a number of regular starters for Canada have made the shift to the replacements bench, offering up opportunities for some of the younger members of senior men’s national rugby team.

    In assessing what the Argentinians will bring to the match – Crowley says it will be a similar approach that the Georgians plied against Canada to open the tournament two weeks ago – a 42-10 win.

    “The Jaguars are a very physical group up front – and will offer a large challenge to our forwards,” he analyzed. “Their kicking game is quite tactical and they are always looking to gain territory through kicks to space and our back three. I think we have created an appropriate response to that tactic having Sean Duke, Matt Evans and James Pritchard back there.”

    Coach Kieran Crowley has replaced his front row from the match against Ireland last week – a loss to Ireland 30-19. Making his first start and collecting his third cap on Sunday will be Newfoundland’s Frank Walsh of the Vandals RFC club. He will pack down with the Pletch brothers – who mark their first start together as a hooker/prop combination.

    Mike Pletch will be in the hooker spot, with his brother Dan next to him at loosehead prop.

    Canada also lost the services of second row Mike Burak – so as a result Jebb Sinclair’s seventh Canada appearance will be in the second row, rather than his more familiar back row spot. He slots in with Tyler Hotson who marks his 10th Canada start.

    In the back row Stan McKeen is back from long term injury and a season of rugby at Oxford University. Working with him at the open side flanker spot is Nanyak Dala – who makes his fourth straight start of this current campaign.

    Aaron Carpenter also holds down his No. 8 position for a fourth straight week and will anchor the back row and wear the Captain’s C for the first time in a Canada jersey.

    Ed Fairhurst moves back to the starting role at scrum-half after moving to the replacements bench for a week – marking his 47th Canada appointment.

    The ascendancy of Ander Monro continues as the Canadian born Scotsman holds onto the fly-half jersey for a third straight week, with his place kicking and line breaks turning heads during this Denver campaign.

    On the wing 21 year old Matt Evans wins his second straight start after causing a stir against Georgia with a pair of tries as a replacement two weeks ago. Evans started at fullback last week in the loss to Ireland A – but will stay on the field – relinquishing the fullback spot back to the very in form James Pritchard. The other wing spot goes to second year man Sean Duke.

    “This is a reward for how well Matt has been playing both off the replacements bench and as a starter,” explained Crowley of his decision to keep the youngster in the side. “He really attacks the gaps and works for space out there – so I think it is important that we keep him on the pitch for this match.”

    Bryn Keys gets his first start of this Churchill Cup after making an impact off the bench in two performances. He will start at inside centre – with DTH van der Merwe sliding over one spot after a pair of decent outings in the number 12 jersey.

    Crowley says the decision to start Keys will possibly offer more space to van der Merwe – who has been a spark plug in the Canadian backline since his return from injury this season.

    “Bryn offers the balanced approach we are looking for and the ability to get DTH into some more space could pay dividends in this particular instance,” said Crowley.

    There is still a lot of experience on the bench as Pat Riordan will be the hooker replacement after starting the last five matches and Captaining the side. Also taking a break after a similar number of starts is Adam Kleeberger – who could make for a burst in the second half if he is needed for cover in the back row.

    Front row cover includes Doug Wooldridge – who has been seeing steady action getting into all three Churchill Cup matches so far.

    Perth, Ontario’s Stu Ault wins another assignment on the replacement’s bench along with New Brunswick’s Chauncey O’Toole.

    Dean Van Camp will provide coverage for the two young wings in the match and Phil Mack will provide relief to Ed Fairhurst if needed.

    Canada side to face Argentina
    1. Frank Walsh (Vandals RFC/St. John`s, NFLD)
    2. Mike Pletch (Velox Valhallians/London,ON)
    3. Dan Pletch (Niagara Thunder/London, ON)
    4. Jebb Sinclair (Castaway Wanderers/Frederiction, NB)
    5. Tyler Hotson (UBC Old Boy Ravens/Vancouver, BC)
    6. Stan McKeen (Oxford University/Vancouver, BC)
    7. Nanyak Dala (Castaway Wanderers/Saskatoon, SK)
    8. Aaron Carpenter (Brantford Harlequins/Coventry/Brantford, ON)
    9. Ed Fairhurst (Cornish Pirates/Victoria, BC)
    10. Ander Monro (Colorno, Italy)
    11. Matt Evans (Hartpury College/Cowichan, BC)
    12. Bryn Keys (Moseley RFC/Abbotsford, BC)
    13. DTH van der Merwe (Glasgow Warriors/Regina, SK)
    14. Sean Duke (University of Victoria/Vancouver, BC)
    15. James Pritchard (Bedford Blues)

    Replacements
    16. Pat Riordan (University of Victoria/Burnaby, BC)
    17. Doug Wooldridge (Cowichan RFC/Lindsay, ON)
    18. Stuart Ault (Moseley RFC/Perth, ON)
    19. Chauncey O’Toole (Castaway Wanderers/Belleisle, NB)
    20. Adam Kleeberger (University of Victoria/White Rock, BC)
    21. Dean Van Camp (Velox Valhallians/Port Perry, ON)
    22. Phil Mack (James Bay AA/Victoria, BC)

    Staff
    Coach: Kieran Crowley
    Assistant Coach: John Tait
    Skills Coach: Morgan Williams
    Strength and Conditioning Coach: Tyler Goodale
    Therapists: Carla McComb, Kim Mark Goldsworthy
    Manager: Des Lynch
    Video Analyst: Peter Huigenbos
    Team Doctor: Dr. Joe Lemoine
    Communications Manager: Doug Crosse

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  16. Faust
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    I think they are light in the tight 5 which really worries me. I am not a Pletch boys fan and this is where we are really lacking.

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  18. mdnolin
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    The modern game requires the careful management of players. It is unreasonable to ask our semi-professional athletes to grind out 80 minutes of every game in what has turned out to be an ambitious and somewhat successful 2009 schedule, especially with important qualifiers looming against the U.S. in the near future. It is even more unreasonable when you consider that precious few of our players are playing on a weekly basis throughout the year in high level competitions.

    While a win against Argentina `A` would nice, as are all wins, preparation and peaking for the qualifiers would seem to be more important.

    I think the squad has progressed well on field in the past calendar year, and it is a reflection of quality coaching and maturing athletes. As a collective we need to realize that off field training will only yield a defined increase in on field results, our players need more high level games against comparable competition to improve. There is only so much a player can learn from taking a ten try drubbing, and giving a ten try drubbing -- both ends of the learning are fairly small.

    Some thoughts to chew on.

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  20. Faust
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    I am denying that, but Canada`s biggest weakness is the tight 5. Even Georgia`s second rate side had fun in the Scrums with Canada. Argentina should be worse.

    I like Morgan, but a scrum half cannot train a Prop in skills. We need a proper forwards coach whether part time or not.

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  21. Harry Craig
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    Isn`t Lunk still helping out.

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  22. Drew4
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    The Argentina squad is mainly made up of Argentina based players, with two French based pros at 11&10. So it should be a great match, and hopefully Canada can avenge the 17-16 defeat at last years Churchill Cup. Go get em boys.

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  23. rusty_lock
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    Prediction:

    Canada 26

    Argentina 17

    Go Canada Go!!

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  24. Harry Craig
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    Sems we went down despite a great fight. Two yellow cards in the second half seemed to close the deal for the Argies.

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  25. Toothlesstiger
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    It was more than that. They did not respond as a team to the added pressure of the importance of the match. They almost to a man put too much pressure upon themselves and in for the most part our game broke down with Ander Munro succoming to this self imposed situation.

    It may have been contagious and a dose of the anti dope at the half appeared to clam the blood and the Canadians seemed well on the road back but the Argentinians took full advantage of our vulnerability when like them we were one player down.

    That was a telling tactical difference between the two sides. The second yellow card was totally unnecessary by a player coming in off the bench, perhaps the reason he was on the bench, this energetic, hardworking player has to focus on his skills and contribution to the team and less on collecting yellow cards. This was not the players first card for the same reason in both the Churchill Cup but again one of the earlier test matches, the Irish or the Welsh.

    The only significant weakness taking the field was the front row / five and what also transpired in the breakdown of our line outs.

    These were enough negatives to deny us the victory we were so capable of having.

    The Argentinians were worthy winners but they were far from being unbeatable.

    The Final 7 minutes of the game in an attempt to scrabble back our 7s side worked furiously with 7 a-side tactics and while it did have he benefit of scoring the two DTH tries none the less it left the balance of the team at six`s & sevens scrambling on defence .

    The two tries were great and the Warriors have signed a winner there in the form of DTH but such scrambling does not work well for our relatively speaking naive squad who have shown much in the way of positives under the tutelage of their new coach and his supporting staff.

    Undoubtedly, as was evident from both the play by play and colour commentators, Arron Carpenter would be the worthy award as the Canadian player of the Game along with DTH not just for his tries but his complete work load. [who by the way was that colour commentator].

    I would be amiss if I did not think that Matt Evans was also a major part of the game, like DTH, his two tries were wonderful. Congratulations gentlemen and a sincere thanks from the "weekend game analyst".

    Good luck in the RWC Qs. Hope to and may drop in on the 4th, July

    Go Canada Go boys, Thanks Coaches.

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  26. Toothlesstiger
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    Two things were very apparent regarding the location of the tournament. One, as in the past final day at Edmonton some two years ago the stands were close to being naked.

    Secondly, from the experience that they will have gained from this location, which could the location of choice for the next few years, that it was unbelievably "too" hot and in scheduling there should be provision to stage the Finals under the lights. That may well mean wrapping up on the Saturday evening but I hardly think it would negatively impact the attendence numbers.

    In fact it might well be reason enough in itself to encourage our native partying supporters to come out and Party!!!

    Why not??

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  27. Moosehead
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    Well I really enjoyed the game. I think Canada played very well. Some really great trys and no fear shown in going for the try.

    We need to be more consistent and less errors in our attempts for trys to cut down on interceptions by the other teams. More accurate ball placement and ball handling. Penalty kicking not as good in this match.

    Good to see that Canada could come back from such a large deficit and that they almost achieved the win.

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